I do wish I had save the whole thing - we are totally missing the Lady Macbeth section - this is the second half of the witches discussion... I just like Shakey conversations and feel they are worth mentioning.
You have to read it in the comments sections blogger is being weird...
Amanda
ReplyDeletebecause they need to feel connected the something
in order for it to be believable
i mean, i think its questionable for a reason
12:36amMegan
i was once told macbeth and hamlet are the same play - only macbeth is a soldier and a man of action where hamlet is a philosopher
both men are given some sort of otherworldy experience that they must choose to beleive or not to believe then act or not act upon
Macbeth acts - because he's a soldier - not a thinker - thats what he does (with more than a little push from he wife)
Hamlet just sits around and thinks about it for four hours
12:38amAmanda
hahah
that's kind of true
but, what i like about shakespeare
is it really makes you wonder
whether the supernatural
12:38amMegan
I mean - in Hamlet - is the ghost real? if it is is it really hamlets father or a demon, and is it telling teh truth
12:38amAmanda
is really supernatural
yeah
its like what jung says
about how
the subconscious reveals itself as destiny
so really
is hamlet even seeing a ghost
or is he just distraught and delirious
12:40amMegan
well and I wonder - how many times have YOU felt connected to something supernatural - like you jsut have GUT feeling feeling, or had a crazy dream full of premonitions - so all these people are having these experiences that they TRULY believe whehter they actually exist or not
12:40amAmanda
and, i mean, the witches could just know politics well
12:40amMegan
which goes along with what you just typed!
12:40amAmanda
yeah, excalty
12:41amMegan
and macbeth is expecialy intersting because he actually hallucinates a few times
he sees a dagger before him
he sees the ghost of banquo
12:42amAmanda
but then, in reality, the supernatural could just be a moment of clearer connection with the collective consciousness
yeah, i mean i think those are definitely hallucinations
its like the dream
like his guilt is thrusting images forward
from his subconscious
where hes tried to suppress them
to something he can't ignore
12:44amMegan
but the witches other people see
12:44amAmanda
and who know
yeah
i dont think they are hallucinations
12:44amMegan
but - I completely concur with what you said above
12:44amAmanda
eyah
i don't know
i have to read it agian
to get a clearer idea
but i like that image of them
as being somehow ancient mystics
but also derelicts
so you really dont know if you should trust them
i mean, they could just be drugging everyone
hahaha
like how the cia gave people lsd to get them to tell the truth
haha
12:46amMegan
well there is that scene where macbeth goes to their cave
and is like SUMMON HECATE I WANNA HEAR MORE
they could TOTALLY jsut drug him
give him absinthe or soemthing
make him see Hacate
12:47amMegan
er Hecate - I cant type